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Post by OOZMan on Jun 22, 2005 14:55:38 GMT -5
Get rid of the cripple thing, it makes it seem as if its a super weapon of some sort.
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Post by Vader on Jun 22, 2005 15:04:52 GMT -5
It only cripples an area of about...40 to 50 feet with each shot. Would you prefer if I stated that more clearly?
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Post by OOZMan on Jun 22, 2005 18:39:45 GMT -5
I would prefer if it didn't cripple things at all, Ion cannons only damage electronic systems, they don't cripple anything. A ship should only have 1 superweapon, you have like 3 or so.
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Post by Vader on Jun 22, 2005 18:45:45 GMT -5
I specifically stated in a post (the last one on the first page) that it only cripples electronic systems. It's not a super weapon at all. And mind telling me the other two super weapons that you see?
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Post by OOZMan on Jun 22, 2005 18:51:19 GMT -5
The specialized missiles and the cap ship weapon.
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Post by Vader on Jun 22, 2005 18:53:26 GMT -5
The specialized missiles are nothing big, just have different settings, same as the variety of missiles and such on the modern fighter jet. As for the Archer Cannon, that'd be the true "superweapon" of the ship.
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Post by OOZMan on Jun 22, 2005 18:55:49 GMT -5
It still moot if you can't explain where these are being produced. They can't do it on earth, they'd be Pwned in record time by T.A. forces, so where are they being produced?
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Post by OOZMan on Jun 22, 2005 19:01:48 GMT -5
Oh and must I mention that if SPECTRE pulled something as pretentious as the spacetraffic thing you described, that the T.A. would be on them like a starved wolverine on meat?
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Post by Vader on Jun 22, 2005 19:08:08 GMT -5
They could be on them all they want, if they can find them. SPECTRE bases are very, very, and may I add another very, remote and difficult to find. It's not like in Austin Powers where you have an island with the face of the leader carved into the side. These guys are experts at hiding virtually everything.
The Grievance Class is made in two facilities. One on Earth, which I believe not even the Terran Alliance could find and locate, and the other well hidden in the depths of space. I assure you, unless I reveal myself, you will not "stumble" across them.
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Post by Shadow on Jun 22, 2005 19:22:43 GMT -5
You can't just tell us that we cannot find them. That is powerplaying. You seem to have thoughts for spectre, that doesn't mean they will happen. The TA have bases and access to very good information. Its not that easy to hide the construction of giant bases. And, with your base thats in spacxe, how would they get supplies there and back to earth without no one noticing. A rocket taking off leaves a great pillar of smoke in the air so it would be easy to tell where and when they send stuff up.
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Post by OOZMan on Jun 22, 2005 19:28:20 GMT -5
Look I am sick and fucking tired of hearing "their very well hidden" I DON'T FUCKING CARE HOW WELL HIDDEN THEY ARE!!!! the T.A. has an armada, 1500 or so (and quite a few non) elite psychics, and up until now very little to keep them busy. Unless the facility is in deep space and unless they don't pull anything stupid like that space traffic stunt you described they would be well off. SPECTRE is a criminal organization, and is therefore made up of cowards and nobodies I don't care how powerfull these nobodies are. They cannot and will not match the power of a military organization such as the Sporzaw or the T.A. Second of all a group of psychics could easily find the mental signatures of the Ships crew, its rather easy when you have PPECs and devices that are made to increase psychic output. While SPETRE maybe rich, money won't buy you the nonexistent permits required to get ahold of capship weapons and military tech. I apologize for being rude. But to be blunt there is one thing I hate and it is the idea that criminals can get what whatever they want. Earth up until now was pretty much as close to paradise as your gonna get (not counting the kaiju ). You can have SPECTRE be a badboy on the frontier but up against a ARMADA, (thats several THOUSAND ships at LEAST Holmes) theres not much they can do. And please don't bring in the Neutron cannons, or the archer cannon for that matter, once again its an ARMADA meaning a huge amount of ships and soldiers versus a conglomeration of thugs and immoral losers. In short either A: give me a better reasons to how these could be created beyond Money+well hiddenness and B: please stop making godmode cyborgs and pointless human chars. You want to make them a force to be reckoned with fine, but give them a fucking kaiju/mecha, and give them their own group of psychics to hide the crews of these things since thats the only way they can handle the Elites. And next time please make a SPECTRE homage not a ingame incarnation
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Post by Vader on Jun 22, 2005 20:22:04 GMT -5
It does not matter if the Armada had a fleet of 10,000 ships. Just because have a grea quantity does not mean that that instantly entitles them the ability to find everything and anything. After all, let us consider the past. Armies have, at time, plundered cities for one thing but if it is hidden well enough, they will not find it.
And who are you to predict the future of SPECTRE? Who are you to say that they "cannot and will not match the power of a military organization such as the Sporzsaw and the T.A.?" You may be a high ranking player here, but that still does not grant you the right to determine the future of a creation, my creation, a creation not born from your mind.
And who are you to criticize my creations? A monster may be a powerful weapon but it is just that, a weapon - with the exception of a few. As history, cinema, and literature have shown us, the smallest of things can have the greatest of consequences.
After all, it only took a scrawny, pale, one-testicaled man from Austria to start World War II. It was a boy of 19 (possibly older or younger but virtually very young) that started World War I. It took a small, inexperienced army of farmers and militiamen to overturn the greatest Empire at the time twice and establish our nation. As Yoda said: "Size matters not." And as Shakespeare said: "Though he be but little, he is fierce."
Before this develops into a flame war, which is one thing I cannot stand, I will explain this as carefully as possible. A: When I say it's well hidden, I mean well hidden. If you need specifics, the main Earthen base where the Grievances are built is about...four miles below sea level (one mile deep water, three miles beneath sea floor). So, assure you they are quite well hidden. The space facility is, as I said in the post, well hidden in the "depths of space" meaning it is in deep space and it is also well hidden.
B: For the past...50 years or so SPECTRE has been relatively quiet. The Six Days affair was about...15 years before that. After that, SPECTRE has been idling its time, just building and building. During this time they have rarely sent any of the old Grievances out very far, too short for your Psychics to detect. I would imagine that after 50 years of silence, an organization such as the Terran Alliance would move on. And if not, there is still no telling that they would be found.
I ask you read the quote the follows my post from Mario Puzo's The Godfather before criticizing my work, yet again. Instead of just of either praising or condeming this work, you have merely debated over the "legitimacy" of it, according to your rules and interpretations. As far as I can tell, there is no rule stating that SPECTRE cannot grow to the strength that you feel it cannot possibly attain. If there is, then I have overlooked it and I apologize.
Again, I ask you to read the quote, interpret it, and answer accordingly. I mean, what have I ever done for you to treat me so disrespectfully? I have not critizied your creations, have not uttered a single vulgar term in response to you, nor have not criticized you in any way, shape, or form. I have been nothing but courtious and polite to you and this board. Yet, you insult me as if I had done some great travesty to you...
"In the name of God, do your duty."
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Post by Zilla on Jun 22, 2005 20:35:08 GMT -5
i see nothing wrong with it but it is not my choice
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Post by KurganGhidorah on Jun 22, 2005 20:55:40 GMT -5
OOZMan, have you ever seen a James Bond film. SPECTRE, in the films they appeared in, existed when the Cold War was in effect. They were able to hide massive facilites from both the United States and the Soviet Union. Acounting for advances in technology since that time, I have no douubt that SPECTRE would be able to easily hide stuff from both the Terran Alliance and the Coalition, the two biggest powers in the rpg. You really need to chill dude, I've know Vader a hell of a lot longer than you have, he know's what he's doing and will do it well. You have no say over whether or not this is approved or not. To quote The Rock "Know your role and shut your mouth.".
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Post by golddew on Jun 22, 2005 20:58:14 GMT -5
I have only a few questions about this. It's just that, in your description of the ship's armor, you say that "the armor is very strong". Then you say, when describing the force-shield thing you say "since the ship's armor isn't so strong, it has a strong force shield". Could you please choose one or the other?
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